Zionism: The Real Enemy

[aksis]

Those who are anti-love for all other People are anti-Christ.

Anti-Love = Anti-Christ = Anti-God

I don't care what religion you subscribe to.

God dosn't care about your religion either....

God is concerned with the quality of your Love.

[aksis]

Rottweiler,

By the way, I don't believe the above quotes are what *most* Jews believe any more then I believe the Spanish inquisitioner's statements are what Christians believe.

[aksis]

The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

Zionism \Zi"on*ism\, n. [Zion + -ism.]
Among the Jews, a theory, plan, or movement for colonizing
their own race in Palestine, the land of Zion, or, if that is
impracticable, elsewhere, either for religious or
nationalizing purposes; -- called also {Zion movement}. --
{Zi"on*ist}, n. -- {Zi`on*is"tic}, a.
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

Zionism
n 1: a policy for establishing and developing a national homeland
for Jews in Palestine
2: a movement of world Jewry that arose late in the 19th
century with the aim of creating a Jewish state in
Palestine [syn: {Zionist movement}]


From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

Zion \Zi"on\, n. [Heb. ts[imac]y[=o]n, originally, a hill.]
[1913 Webster]
1. (Jewish Antiq.) A hill in Jerusalem, which, after the
capture of that city by the Israelites, became the royal
residence of David and his successors.
[1913 Webster]

2. Hence, the theocracy, or church of God.
[1913 Webster]

3. The heavenly Jerusalem; heaven.
[1913 Webster]

From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

Zion
n 1: originally a stronghold captured by David (the 2nd king of
the Israelites); above it was built a temple and later
the name extended to the whole hill; finally it became a
synonym for the city of Jerusalem; "the inhabitants of
Jerusalem are personified as `the daughter of Zion'"
[syn: {Sion}]
2: Jewish republic in southwestern Asia at eastern end of
Mediterranean; formerly part of Palestine [syn: {Israel},
{State of Israel}, {Yisrael}, {Sion}]
3: an imaginary place considered to be perfect or ideal [syn: {Utopia},
{Sion}]

From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]:

19 Moby Thesaurus words for "Zion":
Canaan, Celestial City, City Celestial, City of God, Civitas Dei,
****aigne, Holy City, New Jerusalem, Shangri-la, arcadia, bliss,
elysium, empyrean, fairyland, heaven, nirvana, paradise,
promised land, wonderland



From Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary [easton]:

Zion
sunny; height, one of the eminences on which Jerusalem was
built. It was surrounded on all sides, except the north, by deep
valleys, that of the Tyropoeon (q.v.) separating it from Moriah
(q.v.), which it surpasses in height by 105 feet. It was the
south-eastern hill of Jerusalem.

When David took it from the Jebusites (Josh. 15:63; 2 Sam.
5:7) he built on it a citadel and a palace, and it became "the
city of David" (1 Kings 8:1; 2 Kings 19:21, 31; 1 Chr. 11:5). In
the later books of the Old Testament this name was sometimes
used (Ps. 87:2; 149:2; Isa. 33:14; Joel 2:1) to denote Jerusalem
in general, and sometimes God's chosen Israel (Ps. 51:18; 87:5).

In the New Testament (see {SION}) it is used sometimes
to denote the Church of God (Heb. 12:22), and sometimes the
heavenly city (Rev. 14:1).

[aksis]

Seems there are always a few fools in every group instigate hate against other groups...

Those rabbis that rottweiler quoted are a good example...

Take great care not to become what you oppose.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

Without the Talmud there would still be Zionists. The Talmud has no power over Zionists. The Zionists created the Talmud to assist them in their evil practices. Take the Talmud away and the Zionists would create another Talmud.

I disagree. The talmud has existed since before Jesus, although it was in oral form then. Your argument is like saying that if there were no wombs, babies would create them. The talmud is what brought about the zionist mentality, not the other way around.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by aksis

Those who are anti-love for all other People are anti-Christ.

Anti-Love = Anti-Christ = Anti-God

I don't care what religion you subscribe to.

God dosn't care about your religion either....

God is concerned with the quality of your Love.

True. What did Jesus say of the jews? THAT should be something you know.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by aksis

Rottweiler,

By the way, I don't believe the above quotes are what *most* Jews believe any more then I believe the Spanish inquisitioner's statements are what Christians believe.

Fair enough, on what do you base your belief? You do know that all rabbis are required to know the talmud inside out and that rabbinical courts use it to help decide cases, don't you?

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by aksis

Seems there are always a few fools in every group instigate hate against other groups...

Those rabbis that rottweiler quoted are a good example...

Take great care not to become what you oppose.

I take exception to the first part of your post. If someone criticises another race/religion/creed, whatever, why is it always put down to hate? If I considered sharks dangerous to my health, so I wrote in a manner not positive to sharks, is that hate too?
As for the last line, extremely good advice.

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

I appreciate the general reluctance to go too far with this...racial hatred, etc. It speaks well for the general character of the posters, being sensitive and basically decent folk, and this in spite of much provocation.

I consistently find this with the Western peoples in marked contrast to the tribalistic heathens one finds out in the wider world...it is with good reason that the Lord reserved "the ends of the earth" (the best lands) for his people Israel...

Thats exactly why the 'tiptoeing' around the whole thing is so evident...but come out already and say it-

Jewry is Vexing (disagreeable), and Enviable. And thats just how the Bible has it-

"...Ephraim (Christian West) is JEALOUS of Judah, and Judah VEXES Ephraim..."

And the day will come when the two sticks are joined together again, as one, and "...and the envy of Ephraim shall depart, and no more shall Judah vex (anyone)". For that we need our Redeemer.

It's a process and it is happening in our own lives as we speak (or write)- there will someday be repentenance and cleansing, as per Zechariah 12 et al.

Keep the faith.

[aksis]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

I take exception to the first part of your post. If someone criticises another race/religion/creed, whatever, why is it always put down to hate? If I considered sharks dangerous to my health, so I wrote in a manner not positive to sharks, is that hate too?
As for the last line, extremely good advice.

Hate is hate... I see People of religions hate People of other religions... and they are hyprocrates when they do it...

Judge your self... I am simply speaking my peace.

I base what I say on magnanimous agape love for all People... regardless of their religion...

You do know that all rabbis are required to know the talmud inside out and that rabbinical courts use it to help decide cases, don't you?

As they have judged, so shall they be judged.