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Old 08-20-2007, 03:54 PM
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It is not about just Jews, all nations and peoples are neck deep in mysticism. I will lump them all together under the terms useful idiots of pagan Babylonian superstitions.

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By the way, I don't believe the above quotes are what *most* Jews believe any more then I believe the Spanish inquisitioner's statements are what Christians believe.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:12 PM
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The light of Masonry is based on the Kabalah, or Jewish mysticism.
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/masonry.html
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:14 PM
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It is not about just Jews, all nations and peoples are neck deep in mysticism. I will lump them all together under the terms useful idiots of pagan Babylonian superstitions.

Why not just say non-Christians?

You can call them "goy" & "goyim"... Oops... never mind, those word are already taken.

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The light of Masonry is based on the Kabalah, or Jewish mysticism.
Actualy, its power came from being the people who held the secrets of cutting stone and mixing mortor.

A King that wanted to build a Castle would have to go to the Masons to build it.

They guarded the secrets of cutting stone and mixing mortor so that they could remain free.

What it is now? I doubt you know, seeing as how you don't comprehend that peice of truth from its point of origin....
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:28 PM
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People might get a kick out of the quatlose thread that started up after this one. Here is a little snip of the zany antics of the "quatlosers":

http://www.quatloos.com/qforum/viewtopic.php?t=1243&postdays=0&postorder=asc&star t=0

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Is calling someone "goy" like calling someone a "nigger"?

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No.

You're an idiot.

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You're an idiot... and a lier.

They are both derogatory words and intended to be insulting and degrade People.

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It's "liar," moron.

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It was a play on words and served many purposes...

liar was only an insinuation...

it also served as a reflection....

and then there is the definition:

Lier \Li"er\ (l[imac]"[~e]r), n. [From {Lie}. ]
One who lies down; one who rests or remains, as in
concealment.
[1913 Webster]


That's what wserra is, "One who lies down". wserra should not have taken such a weak position.

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wserra should not have taken such a weak position.
I realize that a partner in a small New York law firm might as well be a Martian to you, but try to picture this. My firm has four partners, of whom I am one. I am the only partner who is not Jewish. My partners refer to me as the "token goy", or the "Goy Wonder". If you think that this is the equivalent of "nigger", you are even dumber than the fact that 95% of your quotes from the "Talmud" are fabrications makes you seem.

Your right. I am sooooo dumb.

I wonder where they got the term "token goy" from:



http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/3390
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The term comes from the phrase "token nigger," usually a person who is the only African-American in a potentially hostile, racist environment. In the past, the term may have been applied to anyone opposed to the civil rights movement or to African-Americans attending predominately white schools.

It is also used to refer to a person who is not worthy of his or her position but received it to appease the African-American community. It is a term packed with racist innuendo. To take it back a few years, "token" is a fighting word.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:01 PM
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Because I prefer to call them luciferians.

Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree Mason, was one of the early authors who claimed a pagan origin for Freemasonry. In his book entitled The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, he says that Freemasonry is not a material thing: it is a universal expression of the Divine Wisdom. "The Masonic order is not a mere social organization, but is composed of all those who have banded themselves together to learn and apply the principles of mysticism and the occult rites."

Albert Pike speaks of Lucifer as the Light-bearer!
"Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls?" The Bible identifies Lucifer as being Satan and an angel of light. According to Paganism, Lucifer is the bearer of the light that enlightens man's understanding of his Higher Self or his "God Self."

Pike, in his book Morals and Dogma, says this about religion and Freemasonry: "Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." According to the modern day interpreters of Masonry, it has now taken its logical place as the unifier of all religions. One such interpreter, Foster Bailey, an occultist and a 32nd degree Mason, said that "Masonry is the descendant of a divinely imparted religion" that antedates the prime date of creation. Bailey goes on to say that "Masonry is all that remains to us of the first world religion" which flourished in ancient times. "It was the first unified world religion. Today we are working again towards a world universal religion."

In other words, Freemasonry has its roots in the same sources as the mystery religions of the world that brought on the wrath of the Hebrew God of the Old Testament. And the Craft is now preparing the way for the revival of the same religion of the ancients.

Pike says that "truth is not for those who are unworthy." He goes on to say that "Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray."

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Why not just say non-Christians?

You can call them "goy" & "goyim"... Oops... never mind, those word are already taken.

Actualy, its power came from being the people who held the secrets of cutting stone and mixing mortor.

A King that wanted to build a Castle would have to go to the Masons to build it.

They guarded the secrets of cutting stone and mixing mortor so that they could remain free.

What it is now? I doubt you know, seeing as how you don't comprehend that peice of truth from its point of origin....
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:03 PM
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So the Father is not within you?

The Father is not the Source of Light?

Could Lucifer have any power unless God made it so?

Is it even Lucifers Light, or simply God's light twisted? Love turned to Hate?
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:59 PM
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Silly man, you should know by now I worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob and not the universal pantheon of witchcraft.

http://www.kofu33.org/

Albert Pike made a bold assertion in Morals & Dogma, that "Masonry is identical to the ancient Mysteries ", which means that all their teachings in all their books are precisely the same as the Ancient, Pagan, Satanic Mysteries!

How about you? Is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?
Never mind, I believe I asked you that already.

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So the Father is not within you?

The Father is not the Source of Light?

Could Lucifer have any power unless God made it so?

Is it even Lucifers Light, or simply God's light twisted? Love turned to Hate?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:16 PM
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'The Mysteries Of Magic' by Eliphas Levi
"What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism." page 428

'The Book Of Black Magic' by Arthur Edward Waite 33°
"First Conjuration Addressed to Emperor Lucifer. Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine abode, in what-ever quarter of the world it may be situated and come hither to communicate with me. I command and I conjure thee in the Name of the Mighty Living God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, to appear without noise and without ...." page 244

'The Secret Teaching Of All Ages' by Manly Palmer Hall 33°
"I hereby promise the Great Spirit Lucifuge, Prince of Demons, that each year I will bring unto him a human soul to do with as as it may please him, and in return Lucifuge promises to bestow upon me the treasures of the earth and fulfil my every desire for the length of my natural life. If I fail to bring him each year the offering specified above, then my own soul shall be forfeit to him. Signed.....
{ Invocant signs pact with his own blood } " page CIV

'The Lost Keys Of Freemasonry' by Manly Palmer Hall 33°
"When The Mason learns that the Key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the Mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply this energy." page 48

'The Secret Doctrine' by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
"Lucifer represents..Life..Thought..Progress..Civilization. .Liberty..Independance..Lucifer is the Logos..the Serpent, the Savior." on pages 171, 225, 255 (Volume II)

"It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God." pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)

"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and "Satan' at one and the same time." page 539 (Volume?)

Albert Pike 33°
"That which we must say to a crowd is - We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees - The Masonic Religion should be, by alll of us initates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine.

If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay whose deeds prove his cruelty, perdify and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests, calumniate him?
Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods: darkness being necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.

Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil."
Instructions to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World, July 14, 1889. Recorded by A.C. De La Rive in La Femme et l'Enfant dans la FrancMaconnerie Universelle on page 588

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with it's splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not! Morals and Dogma page 321

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I disagree. The talmud has existed since before Jesus, although it was in oral form then. Your argument is like saying that if there were no wombs, babies would create them. The talmud is what brought about the zionist mentality, not the other way around.
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Man created the Talmud. The Talmud cannot change anyone’s mentality. Whoever wrote it had an evil mentality and only those with an evil mentality would believe such trash. Your argument is like saying a book can make a man evil. Man makes himself evil. Only weak stupid men would feed their minds with such trash.
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