What Happened on the Moon?

[Shoonra]

With specific reference to the "C" on a rock, this was addresses in a Penn & Teller show on cable, there's a C in this guy's book ... but a print of the original photo shows no such "C".

One important fact about the first moon landing is that almost as soon as they were on the surface, the astronauts set up a retroflector. This is a sort of curved mirror capable of reflecting earthbased laser beams back to their source (a roundtrip of about 8 seconds); this was made of quartz, had to be cut like the facets of a diamond, very expensive, rather fragile, and had to be set up and aimed very precisely. Only humans could have set it up properly. Within a few minutes of the astronauts setting it up on the moon, several observatories reported getting their laser signals reflected it. The retroflector is still operating (it needed no batteries) and so precisely that it has enable the correction of previous calculations of the distance between moon and earth.

In every moon landing the astronauts have deliberately televised themselves doing something that could simply not be done on earth, such as slamming a golfball nearly a mile. More proof that they were on the moon.

Several observatories and labs, not just American and not just govt owned, listened to the radio signals from the astronauts -- on radio frequencies that do not bounce around like the shortwaves of the BBC or ham operators, but higher frequencies that positively pass through the ionosphere and could not possibly have been heard, especially in some many locations, if they had originated anywhere on the earth, but could only have come from outer space.

[rottweiler]

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon.
http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id744.html

[ndusa]

What happened on the moon? Nothing.

The mirrors were put there when we sent probes. I had it all written down, the amount of thrust, fuel, rockets, ect.., (and someone got off with it) and the simple math blows this one out of the water.

Its a fact that most space probes have failed(well over 50%, counting every probe sent into space), yet we, the good ol united States of Amerika, sent all these people to the moon with not one failure? Umm, lets see, even today with our best shuttles, we still keep mucking it up.

Someone once said, the bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe. This is one of them right here.

A comment about radio communications. Just try to pick up the Asto-not's, YOU CANT! Its a good theory, but its just another hoax.

[rottweiler]

This will freak you out!
http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id746.html

[mrg]

http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/NAZNWO08.TXT

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

One important fact about the first moon landing is that almost as soon as they were on the surface, the astronauts set up a retroflector. Only humans could have set it up properly.
Important fact? Maybe regarding the first ROVER landing. This site states that remote controlled rovers set up retroflectors too. No humans involved with that.

http://physics.ucsd.edu/%7Etmurphy/apollo/lrrr.html

In every moon landing the astronauts have deliberately televised themselves doing something that could simply not be done on earth, such as slamming a golfball nearly a mile. More proof that they were on the moon.
No proof! Camera and movie studio tricks and effects.
I would have included one of these in every fake landing too. What better way to sell to the masses.

...higher frequencies that positively pass through the ionosphere and could not possibly have been heard, especially in some many locations, if they had originated anywhere on the earth, but could only have come from outer space.
From space true but there is plenty of space that doesn't include the moon.

Try again.

[ndusa]

I've been thinking--It took a three stage(and these were HUGE) rocket to get off the earth. Now, how did that little rocket on the moon have so much fuel? I don't recall them mentioning gas stations up there. One little rocket, off the moon, and back home seems more than a little suspico9us to me. (two plus two at nasa must come out to about, uuuuu---500,000)

[Shoonra]

It took considerably more power to escape earth's gravity and atmosphere than the moon's. Additionally the moon lander itself was not particularly aerodynamic, once it took off from the moon, the astronauts rejoined the main space ship which had been orbiting the moon, and the lander was dumped. In fact, at virtually every step the moon rocket was getting lighter and lighter, with used up parts being discarded and a good deal of stuff left on the surface of the moon.

[ndusa]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

It took considerably more power to escape earth's gravity and atmosphere than the moon's. Additionally the moon lander itself was not particularly aerodynamic, once it took off from the moon, the astronauts rejoined the main space ship which had been orbiting the moon, and the lander was dumped. In fact, at virtually every step the moon rocket was getting lighter and lighter, with used up parts being discarded and a good deal of stuff left on the surface of the moon.

I took all of that into consideration. There still wasn't even close to enough fuel in the single stage rocket to get off of the moon, let alone dock, and break orbit to return to earth.

Something else tips a person off- Foot prints! You have to have moisture and atmosphere to create foot prints.

Check out the loony rover- the dust particles settle to the ground faster than on a hot dry day on earth. I’m afraid to say, but if they kicked up dust, it would float for hours, days, perhaps weeks before settling with such low gravity.

There is the case of the suits being much larger than the door opening as well on the mylar space craft. They couldn’t have possibly got in and out without zero pressure, which surely would have killed the astro-nots.

Speaking of mylar, how could they travel that fast, hitting billions of space particles, and never penetrated? This would be the case on the moon as well. One flip of the tire would have been like a shot-gun going off, shooting debre threw the asto-nots, with no atmosphere to stop or slow it.

Lastly, the loony lander- It is fact that they crashed it in every flight on earth, but yet they managed to work it perfectly in a completely foreign enviroment, without a hitch! Just way to many things that don’t come together right.

The Russians knew it to be impossible at that time. Most of the world knows it was a sham, why can’t America?

[Shoonra]

It is entirely possible to create footprints in dry dust. In the case of the moon, a great deal of space dust has settled over the centuries in the low gravity vacuum, but the weight of an astronaut would cause compacting of that dust directly beneath, creating a footprint.

By the same token, the lack of atmosphere means that dust kicked up will quickly settle, there being no air resistence to measure against its microscopic weight. Naturally, without much gravity pull, it will settle lightly and be easily compacted by footprints.

The moon rover was built to operate in a low gravity vacuum, which means that the same engine tested on earth with anything as heavy as a human passenger would probably fail.

If, as you insist, the moon landings were a hoax, and the Russians knew it, why didn't the Russians (or any other country) blow the whistle on us, .... or at least concoct their own fake landing for the sake of prestige? And why haven't we (pretended to have) visited the moon for the last 20 years or so?