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View Poll Results: What did you do re the google conspiracy?
Nothing, I am scared they will log my ISP and send their henchment to break my legs. 2 9.52%
I used their contact form to suggest they correct the situation. 19 90.48%
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Old 02-07-2005, 05:36 PM
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A Google Conspiracy?

I am not given to wild conspiracy theories, but something with google is going on, and it is very strange indeed.

For probably half a year or more, searching for the terms "suijuris" or "sui juris" would show suijuris.net as the 1st listing on the 1st page of results.

Suddenly, the ranking dropped like a rock overnight. Rather than speculating as to whether google is part of a conspiracy to silence us, let us ask them ourselves.

Use this link to prompt google to correct the situation:

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Then vote in the poll above so we know what is going on.
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If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.

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Old 02-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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SuiJuris, I don't know if you caught it or not, but one of the first links provided for a search of suijuris.net was for the folks at quatloos, in reference to suijuris.net.

The first link I came upon for suijuris.net was for the "web site help and enhancements" on the fourth page and the sites front page on the fifth page.
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:54 PM
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Cool I concur

RickA,
You beat me to it. Quatloos is #2 on the first page. Strange.
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:46 PM
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RickA, that did not escape my attention... not to happy with that either.
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:01 PM
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Unusual

So I typed in suijuris.net w/ a variety of different search terms one at a time. Every time, Quatloos had two or 3 up every time.

I'm taking the poll. Those guys have funding & pull from somewhere[/b]
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:26 PM
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They coulda bought the position.

But that doesn't explain how you got kicked down.

They definitely had something to do with it.

I'd bet on it.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:32 PM
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So I typed in suijuris.net w/ a variety of different search terms one at a time. Every time, Quatloos had two or 3 up every time.

I'm taking the poll. Those guys have funding & pull from somewhere[/b]

Quatloos does not have that kind of pull. Maybe their masters do, but not the peons.

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If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:41 PM
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They coulda bought the position.

But that doesn't explain how you got kicked down.

They definitely had something to do with it.

I'd bet on it.

No, what comes up in the search results cannot be bought, at least not through public channels. The paid adds appear on the left beside the actual results.

The main results are based upon a proprietary ranking algorythm.

So there are two options for what happened:

1. The entire ranking algorythm got changed, legitimately changing our ranking
2. Someone within google fixed the ranking for suijuris.net

If it were not for the fact that even a search for "suijuris.net" does not return a single link to this site on the first page, I would believe that option one is possible.

But it is just to fishy.

Keep those complaints rolling in to google, maybe somebody will take notice and an explanation will be forthcoming.
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If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:55 PM
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Message to google

My recent message to google:
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Hello,

I am trying to find out what is going on with the ranking for Suijuris.net?

For many months it held the first result for the keywords "suijuris" and "sui juris".

Now it does not even come up on the first several pages, what has changed? All the pages now in its place have little or no content related to those keywords and actually link to us, which as I understand should improve our ranking!

Something is fishy, as a site that has been attacking our members and slandering our community is now in the top position!

Even searching for "suijuris.net" (in quotes as indicated) returns the other site previously mentioned!

What is going on, are you being paid to fix our ranking? Is google trying to block us from showing up in searches?

I expect some answers quickly, our 2,000+ members are not very happy about this... they are going to believe this is an attempt to censor us unless a decent explanation is given.

Regards,
Site Admin, Suijuris.net

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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.

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Old 02-08-2005, 06:00 AM
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My recent message to google:
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Hello,

I am trying to find out what is going on with the ranking for Suijuris.net?

For many months it held the first result for the keywords "suijuris" and "sui juris".

Now it does not even come up on the first several pages, what has changed? All the pages now in its place have little or no content related to those keywords and actually link to us, which as I understand should improve our ranking!

Something is fishy, as a site that has been attacking our members and slandering our community is now in the top position!

Even searching for "suijuris.net" (in quotes as indicated) returns the other site previously mentioned!

What is going on, are you being paid to fix our ranking? Is google trying to block us from showing up in searches?

I expect some answers quickly, our 2,000+ members are not very happy about this... they are going to believe this is an attempt to censor us unless a decent explanation is given.

Regards,
Site Admin, Suijuris.net


SJ,

I can tell you what happened. Suijuris has been hidden so people will not see us. Too many people coming to use to be sure and that other site does not like it. I am sure they have gotten with google and have caused this. It will backfire on them though because, like you, I believe more people are interested in the truth and freedom than the pack of lies as spouted on that other site.
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