06-08-2006, 01:54 PM
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acicalla,
You're right... I didn't go deep enough..
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06-08-2006, 01:57 PM
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Well fortunately the hack wasn't devastating. Still, it makes us more aware of security issues here. Thanks to our Admins and users who sent me messages and support. Hopefully, we can prevent this from happening again.
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06-08-2006, 02:01 PM
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If they got that far... it could have been much worse.. lol
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06-08-2006, 02:17 PM
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There was no hack.
The server authenticated the provided id and passkey, and the account holder completed legitimate transactions to the server and hosted SUIJURIS domain content.
This event is just another acknowledgment to the power of Acceptance. Perhaps if the administrators were restricted of remote accounting from networks outside the typical territories the de jure holder is expected to traverse, with correct file permitions as to scope, then this could have been avoided. I don't doubt there could be more than one "Admin" out there. There could be one in District of Columbia too.
With love,
Gregory-Thomas
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06-08-2006, 02:56 PM
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Technically, you are absolutely correct... there was no hack...
The server protocols worked exactly as designed..
What we had was an unauthorized intusion.. a trespasser.
Whether Jason or Admin inadvertantly or purposefully gave someone the pass...
Whether the intruder sniffed the server network to get it..
whether the intruder has a data miner on the server which provided it
whether the intruder tried every concievable word or combination of words as a pass.. (brute force attack) till it was found
or used some other method...
all of which remains to be seen...
we had an intruder... lol
For HIS Glory,
Akira
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If progress means 'to move forward', what does congress mean?" - Nipsy Russel
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06-08-2006, 03:30 PM
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There was no intrusion, as well. All authority was asserted.
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Originally Posted by Akira
Technically, you are absolutely correct... there was no hack...
The server protocols worked exactly as designed..
What we had was an unauthorized intusion.. a trespasser.
Whether Jason or Admin inadvertantly or purposefully gave someone the pass...
Whether the intruder sniffed the server network to get it..
whether the intruder has a data miner on the server which provided it
whether the intruder tried every concievable word or combination of words as a pass.. (brute force attack) till it was found
or used some other method...
all of which remains to be seen...
we had an intruder... lol
For HIS Glory,
Akira
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Pass? Sniff? Data mine? Brute Force?
Surely, this "Jason" character you speak of conditionally agreed; even so, if there were a million different "Jason" in the world, they all may have tried to authenticate their instances within the previous week or so. They can't "brute force" an invalid password into SUIJURIS. Surely, the one true "Jason" or Admin was authorized to post their commercial speach on SUIJURIS.
There is a contract they had signed on their behalf. Remind them of their advertising and rent of SUIJURIS servers. Get those Turkeys on the table, Akira. I hear gold or lead is the only agreed substance to bond international agreements. :-)
And just wanted to confirm this: SUIJURIS is for sale, right? There is advertising all over, and everyone is in agreement, even if they agree to disagree.
With love,
Gregory-Thomas
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06-08-2006, 03:56 PM
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SJ is up for sponsorship rather than for sale being that there are costs of running such a public knowledge resource. 
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And just wanted to confirm this: SUIJURIS is for sale, right? There is advertising all over, and everyone is in agreement, even if they agree to disagree.
With love,
Gregory-Thomas
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06-08-2006, 07:25 PM
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I'm glad everything resolved right now, and little worries this morning.
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06-09-2006, 09:16 AM
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Maybe unrelated but the attachments are producing a parse error and the local Search engine does not function.
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06-09-2006, 10:11 AM
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Yeah it's unrelated. There are some javascript issues with search, quick links and thread tools related to a modification to the site I made a couple of days ago.
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